A file manager is necessary !?

[gfgrisales]

Hey guys just to put something over the table to think about.
This post started as a good idea with the best of the intentions on mind and got a bit "tense" in the middle.
So I will step in with my opinion for both and my propossal to solve the lack of the file manager.

==== What I think of the "situation" created around the subject ====

Finallf this are yout words so please, be aware that at no point this means any offense to you or is a personal attack of any kind. On the opposite I want to show were the good intent was misslead so we can do better in the future all of us:

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I do not need, and I think anyone who uses the Sentora/Zpanel need, but most lay users is asking for it, and usually without it, we lose users/customers.

1st. If you are losing customers because of this, that means you are making profits over something you didn't paid for and in that order of ideas you migth consideer the following options.
Option 1. Develop yourself (having in mind you know how).
Option 2. Take some of the profits and invest it on pay a developer/freelance.
Option 3. Search and download the file explorer of your preference, then Subscribe to the Sentora's premium support program and get some help to implement it (more than sure they will give you a priority hand if you need it).

2nd. If you are sure that "most" users are asking for this feature please share with us the data from where you base your statement or at least the results.
I mean, you must have a number of request of this kind analyzed and organized to determine the % of people requesting this feature and being necessary over 50% the result to say "most".

Those numbers will lead to a better understanding of were lies the importance of this over the rest of the project to the developers (if there is any).

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If you want to contribute to the project you can write the module already no?

Just as it is easy to say that we need, it is easy to talk to users/customers to create their own modules.

And as easy to request the work labor from someone to whom you are not paying and you are making profit over for your own advantage. In other plain and simple words you are using the people for your personal purposes without give anything in return and complaining when they get back to you requesting for motivation or to you to stop the abuse.

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This is the problem, not everyone using the system are required to have the knowledge to a development of this magnitude.
Most runs away from a community where you arrive with an idea, and people send you develop, community grows self help, ideas are to be discussed, not just kill her saying "execulte his idea alone, we are very busy here."
This way, possible developers, not even try to do something.

You are rigth when you point the way a healthy community grows but also for that end we need to create trust and a team work climate starting by expressing ourselves in a better way and controlling our mood (both sides the users and the moderators).

If the lack of time or ManPower to develop this modules from the sentora core team is a problem It depend's on how you see it.
From my point of view instead of see a problem I could see
A. A business opportunity to make some cash over it.
Meaning if they don't have the time and manpower to do it, probably somebody does and can create a sollution and provide licensing for a fee.
B. An opportunitty to raise up my reputation on the comunitty and show my interest/comittment to the project, and over most motivate the sentora team showing they are not alone.
C. An opportunitty to do something for the I.T. world that can make me proud of it and can be included on my curriculum as a result of my efforts and professional capabilities.

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I want a lot of features in the panel & for that I'm actively helping.
M B

Know is true, and I want, I'm just here to discuss a way of doing,

If your goal was to discuss a way to get/provide help sorry to say but your approach was not the best one.

Is not necessary the use of bad words to offend people, and basically with the way you posed your need during the discussion you made it sound like the whole team (not just Me.B) is not doing the rigth thing and this shows low or none respect for their work (although you made it up later).
IMO.

Me.B
I understand the frustration created around comments like this.
For that I don't think the answer was rough.

In the other hand Finallf raises up something important about how to propperly use the force that is lying on the community and that can be played in the favor of all of us. Think about it, people want to help but it is starting to be necessary the help of somebody able to organize the feedback from the community.
Probably something to brainstorm over to organize ideas after the First release.
Don't know... just a thougth!.

==== My propossal to solve the lack of the file manager ====
Finallf, If you what to go over this I'll propose you the following, let's make a list together (you, jacobg830, me) of the file explorers available on the market that can be used. With that information and the help of Me.B and other fellow Sentorers then we narrow down to the best possible options and from there on we start checking on how to implement the sollution.

That way we do several things in here.
1st. Move on the subject,
2nd. Let Sentora team focus on what is priority for the project and provide a release in the best conditions.
3rd. We stand up together to show our support and not only our demanding to get what we need and we think is good for the community.

What do you guys think?